Thursday, July 30, 2015
The Last Trump
L, an atheist/agnostic sent an email titled: Samiya proved right. The email contained the following message and link:
Apparently the Last Trump is being heard around the world...
My response: The Quran speaks of one single blast which will kill and destroy everything, and another which will cause resurrection. When that is to occur, only God has knowledge of it. However, we have been informed that it is approaching closer and closer.
The article you quoted has Biblical quotes. That all scriptures are sent from God is an article of faith for us. However, its better that I leave it to someone else who has studied the Bible in depth to comment upon the end-of-times signs in it.
As regards HAARP, etc, my understanding is that humans will transgress all reasonable bounds to toy with Creation, and try to corrupt the planet and bring harm to it and all who dwell upon it. In the past, many mighty yet criminal nations were warned: when they refused to heed the warnings of the messengers, even though the signs became clear to them, they were then destroyed for their crimes. Scriptures and mythology have many references and legends, and there are many ruins to wonder at what might have been.
I'm posting below some relevant verses/links for your perusal:
http://quran.com/21/1 Their reckoning draweth nigh for mankind, while they turn away in heedlessness.
http://quran.com/7/187 They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah , but most of the people do not know."
http://quran.com/39/68 And the trumpet is blown, and all who are in the heavens and all who are in the earth swoon away, save him whom Allah willeth. Then it is blown a second time, and behold them standing waiting!
http://quran.com/36/48-52 And they say, "When is this promise, if you should be truthful?" They do not await except one blast which will seize them while they are disputing. And they will not be able [to give] any instruction, nor to their people can they return. And the Horn will be blown; and at once from the graves to their Lord they will hasten. They will say, "O woe to us! Who has raised us up from our sleeping place?" [The reply will be], "This is what the Most Merciful had promised, and the messengers told the truth."
http://quran.com/101/1-5 The Calamity! What is the Calamity? Ah, what will convey unto thee what the Calamity is! A day wherein mankind will be as thickly-scattered moths And the mountains will become as carded wool.
http://quran.com/99 When Earth is shaken with her (final) earthquake And Earth yieldeth up her burdens, And man saith: What aileth her? That day she will relate her chronicles, Because thy Lord inspireth her. That day mankind will issue forth in scattered groups to be shown their deeds. And whoso doeth good an atom's weight will see it then, And whoso doeth ill an atom's weight will see it then.
http://quran.com/30/30 So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
L asked: That is of course true of all future events (but I expect mean the date is being moved forward?)
My response: No, I don't think the date is being moved - it will happen at its designated time. I think it means that we humans are running out of time. We are here to work for a beautiful eternal future in the Gardens of the Hereafter. If we do not make the necessary effort, we will end up in the Fire due to our own negligence. http://quran.com/21 and http://quran.com/103 may be of interest.
L opined: To be fair most of those collapses are now well explained by archaeologists, generally in terms of what today seem relatively minor ecological catastrophes but at the time were sufficiently devastating that they brought down entire city-states. Of course in those days it was possible to move to a new spot and start again, hence the idea that civilisation is cyclic ... but I think to blame these events on divine intervention would require something other than the currently available evidence, which all seems to point to natural causes (at least if Ronald Wright is to be believed). Obviously these things get mythologised and turned into the wrath of God in retrospect, but that is just normal human nature at work - schadenfreude and all that.
My response: History is mostly 'intelligent' 'educated' guesses at what may have been. The archaeologists may be right or they may be wrong. As I believe the scripture is from God, and as I take it literally, I believe that the ancient civilisations were far mightier and very advanced, perhaps even travelling to space or doing genetic experimentation. I know it sounds like sci-fi and I need to put together some research to back it up, but the more I study the Quran and look at world history and mythology, the more I'm convinced of it. The civilisations which were destroyed must have been transgressing, and corrupting and upsetting the balance in some terrible way to have earned such annihilation. I think that had God not destroyed them, they would have destroyed the planet and perhaps we would not be here today.
Also note that according to the Quran, whenever such punishments were executed, entire nations were obliterated from the face of the Earth -- only the few who had believed the Messengers survived with him.
Why would you expect the Divine intervention to appear through non-natural causes, when all nature is at God's command?
L commented on the Quranic verses: Those mostly sound very similar to the Christian version ("the Last Trump" - in this case meaning trumpet, or a similar instrument). The ultimate wake-up call, which even returns the dead to life. Actually I'm surprised that the Quran's version IS so similar, although I suppose I shouldn't be - we now know that the Middle Eastern religions all have fairly similar origins, I think? Plus links to the Egyptian religion (Jesus=Osiris etc, IIRC) The Christian version involves the dead being resurrected physically, reagrdless of the manner of their death or whether they were buried, cremated, etc. This would cause the appearance of around 100 billion people (if the introduction to "2001" is to be believed). Approximately one for each star in the galaxy. (Maybe God will give each one a solar system of his or her own.)
My response: We believe that all Prophets and Messengers, starting from Adam till Muhammad preached the same message.
Trinity keeps appearing throughout mythology while Monotheism is stressed across all scriptures. The Catholic Trinity seems rooted in the Egyptian Trinity. However, we believe that it is a corruption of the religion preached by Jesus, as he never claimed divinity for himself, nor did he ever do away with any law.
We also believe that all humans since Adam will be resurrected and held accountable for their beliefs and actions. The Quran (http://quran.com/50/16-18) states that there are two angels with each human, who are constantly recording all deeds and that thing is somewhere in the neck (http://quran.com/17/13-15), and it is that record which is removed at death (http://quran.com/56/83-87). Moreover, it states that a perfect record is maintained of whatever happens to the body after death and it will all be recreated (http://quran.com/50/3-4).
I believe we will eventually find out. Lets hope we are blessed with an Earth (planet with gardens) rather than the punishment in a burning ball of Fire.